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![]() Whenever folks talk about "Gothic" Mr. Poe here gets tossed up as an example. *I'll bet he gets the giggle shits at the constant analogies! ANYWAY..... This section is about the Gothic~Heart :) But before I begin, let me get up on my soapbox for a moment! [can't find a soapbox in the house] [gets up on computer chair instead] [decides this bites the green-weenie] [sits back down] |
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![]() Every now & then, I get these "charming and eloquent" e-mails from peeps just having the utter hissy-fits that I'm "daring" to speak for the "gothic sub-culture". No, I'm speaking for me, and from much of the positive feedback the site has so kindly gotten, I don't think I'm doing a "dis" to the gothic community. At least, I earnestly hope not!!! Maybe they just need something to kill that bug up their chimmney. |
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![]() I'll just say this before we proceed~ I am so astounded by the attitude I see all to often...this "I would'nt join any club who'd have me as a member" mentality. And I'll explain later why insisting that we should NOT accept being shoe-boxed as a "sub-culture". But there appears to be this strain who revels in wanting the whole world to shun them and fear and loathe them, even those who would raise a fist to support them. Dudes...I have no idea what inner fears you can't deal with that drive you to make sure everyone hates you, and by doing so, in your own minds at least, justify your being at odds with the world... But if that's all you have to contibute to life, then stay off my bus.... *wait....I'll take that back. Don't deprive the rest of us of yourself, and don't cut yourself off from whatever we might be able to offer. I guess we all should be more concerned about enriching each other's lives. See...I don't plan out what I'm gonna say all that much, I tend to wait for when it feels right, and just start nailing the keyboard. It may come off Doofey as hell at times, but you get the real stoopid me this way. |
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![]() Oh yeah...... I wuz talking about gothic hearts. Starting with Mr. Poe up yonder, just think of ALL the "Gothic" influence over the last several hundred years that the whole of society embraces and revels in~ Fantastic movies and plays Gorgeous works of art Poetry and songs Awe-inspiring architecture The finest literary works Charles Dickens (yes, Dickens!) Bach Handel Mozart Opera *prayer* |
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![]() I invite you to dig into these areas and drinky deeply of what they have to offer. You'll find that much of what has gone before is so richly entwined in Modern Gothic art and music! AND having that wealth of history to draw upon, you will fall in love with all things gothic to an all new level of embracing. |
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![]() And it's not "morbid" to carry that over into our attitude about death. Death and caring for the dead are so overlain with the above mentioned areas, how can one not be moved? How can people invest SO much in funerary rites and angel monuments - out of love and appreciation for the departed, and then scowl at us, who cherish and revere such expressed spiritualty? | |
![]() You tell me, is this "morbid" or "gothic".... A few years ago, my wife's grandmother died in the hospital. We got there after she'd already passed on. (this thin, sweet, frail little woman) And they all vacated the room when the man from the funeral home showed up to move her. Trouble was, he came alone. I'm not sure what 'look' was on their faces, when I said I was going in to help him. I removed her dentures and packed them. I helped straighten her gown and move her onto the pad, then arraigned her limbs, so we could wrap her into the coverlet. I helped place her on the roll-out and belt her on. I drew the final cover for her and helped him get her on her way. All this was done tenderly and gently, as one would carefully handle a new-born baby. It was the last act of human compassion and kindness that I could offer her. Somewhere, somehow, I think she knew of it. If that appreciation for the reverance of what death is makes me 'morbid' than I'm proud to be so. And I think the healthy gothic individual shares that same farsighted view of death and it's place in life, dark wings and all. |
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![]() *I'll finish this the next night, it's late here right now :) OOOOOkay........ it's Thursday, and I did come back the "next" night and finish this...and I came to read it over tonight... ..and I see I hit the friggin' "log-out" without saving the file. If you've been reading along...just shoot me PLEASE! I'll fix it this weekend (#@#$#$$!!!!) |
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^ I know how she feels ^ So, here I am back to trying to finish and it's 1:00 am on a Friday (late) night. Either real pearls of wisdom are gonna drop.... or the "other" thing! I think, whatever level or range of Goth/Gothic you happen to be, you'd not feel drawn to that "label", or comfortable in claiming that sort of identification, unless your passions ran in the topics here, at least in some way. And trying to describe this here -unless you naturally know what I'm talking about- is like standing next to a blind person before an ornate stained glass window and saying how lovely it is. How can you make them see the shapes and depths and colors you see and how and why they are so wonderful. They can't see thru your eyes, or, with your heart. And why a person's heart drives and thrills to things gothic and dark-is beyond me to explain. Try giving a universal textbook definition of why your heart feels love. No one goes "Eeewwwwww!" if you say you "love to look" at a red rose, so why the prob's with a black one? The sense of beauty is just as profound for you, as it is for the person who likes the red one. What is so lopsided in trying to get a non-gothic person to understand, is that you both like the red rose, but they can't carry that empathetic feeling over to see the black one the same. I get tons of e-mail asking how to make others understand. Well....you can see how that ain't gonna happen. BUT, work on understanding YOUR-self, and once you begin to understand and appreciate your own feelings, the consternation of others looses its sting. |
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![]() A lot of you who come to this site are in High Shool, I know, because I answer all e-mails and guestbook entries personally, and we usually chat for a few e-mails. And you are likely as I was at that age, a bit shy and VERY introspective, and scorned for that by people who just did not see with eyes that looked deeper at life than three feet from their face. |
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![]() MY favorite relaxation is to sit in a darkened room with some candle light, sip some Stolli-Vanil or Absinthe, and listen to music. Sometimes Cruxshadows or Rob Zombie, Often classical or Gregorian Chant by the monks. What's yours? ONE of my favorite things is to stroll the local graveyard, and see not just stones, but monuments to the dignity of life. To sense the love and loss, and appreciate the sacredness of life. To taste the tangible love and hope and faith and grief and loss, the panorama of mortal life. What's yours? I LOVE the imagery, more inner emotion than mental, that gothic music , classical, and intstrumental music can fill me with. Lyrics like the song by Concerto Moon: "When the moon cries, on the wings of darkness" Music that just does not make my foot 'tap' but my heart and spirit move to it's flow. How 'bout you? |
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![]() I LOVE dark art, which to me, penetrates the surface and exposes more about life and death, love and hate, Heaven and Hell, men and women, the beauty of children, and the cruelty that DOES exist in the world. Sometimes, the only way to take a honest and sane look at the realities of life, is thru the eyes of darkness or insanity. What do you see? I AM a hopeless romantic. That means I am doomed to be betrayed at all turns in life and mostly by those I love the most. But I'd rather have that pain and understanding than let myself become stiffled and numb. I'd rather die 100's of time in my heart over this or that, than "not think about" this or that. To me that's emotionally retarded, that is decay, on two legs. Your thoughts? I BELIEVE in the Holy Trinity the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the reality of Purgatory, and the perfect fairness of divine justice. This means I must accept that my faults and failings are my own and by choice, not 'caused' by others or events. Therefore, I believe the light shines in the darkness, and that darkness can reveal the light too. I think at times, it would be easier to be blind. Because, being willing to peer thru both spectrums, I think I see and understand more than I want to. What do you see? |
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![]() I'M wondering now, if I've only come off here like a fool out on a limb. I could go thru 1,000 things that make my heart throb from the gothic side, and yours likely throb to your own list of 1,000 things. Maybe to you, this whole idea of the heart means zip? Maybe you are drawn to goth/gothic things out of depression, or bitterness, or contempt. Maybe you only like it, because it looks cool and diff' to you. For a lot of you it may just be a fad, and that's okay, that is normal, it happens. I wish I could be a mouse in the corner as you read this, peeking at your face, wondering what you think of this discussion. | |
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I'm thinking, I bit off more than I thought! The longer I typed the more I realized~ what is inside a person that makes them goth/gothic is deeply personal and you who are reading this could likely point out to me 100's of things I missed. And I touched on just a few that were personal to me. We are like a huge tapestry, we each have a unique weave and thread stitch, but together, we form this wonderful work :) I mentioned at the start about NOT being content to be 'shoe-boxed' under the title 'SUB-CULTURE' Here is why I wish we'd not accept that label: 1)-society uses that to denote undesireable element. 2)-Do you think you are a bad element? 3)-the gothic influence is in the areas I mentioned above. 4)-you should be PROUD to be linked to that sentiment! 5)-look at how enriched the world is, because of those gothics before us! 6)-YES...dig into the past of the creators I mentioned, those areas, you'll see the gothic influence and boldly.7)- we know it's more than just black! That's a side effect. 8)-when you enjoy being thought of as a 'sub-culture' you help perpetuate the prejudice of those who want you erased. 9)-don't let their love of lethargy keep you in shadow where you can't threaten their SMALL concept of life. 10)-walk boldly and smiling into the sunlight, and SHINE dammit! SHINE DARKLY *one final remark- don't go on and on and on to folks about the ancient goths...this is 2005 and you don't live in bands or in caves, and you ain't them. When you give up Taco Bell and go live like they did for about 20 years, then, come back and we'll talk :) |
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